Hafele vs Hettich
All views expressed here are personal and are written after
I have personally used these products and bought them. I will try to make the
blog as simple as possible. The products were purchased by me in India and used
in Bangalore.
Hafele vs Hettich:
Well these both are leading companies in hardware fittings
and are on premium side. I considered them while I wanted to buy them for my
house interiors and had a detail study on them before I selected one of them.
When I visited the dedicated stores of both these companies I found out that
hafele outnumbered Hettich in the number of products it offered. Also hafele
had more options in the Kitchen category with its brand (Blum) than hettich.
Blum being a part of Hettich offered premium solution for
Kitchen accessories and is a very good option to consider if you are looking
for a premium long sustaining products as it provides the quality justifying
its price. We can experience when we install a basic soft close channel of Hettich
Hafele and Blum. Blum is more premium and gives a good feel followed by Hafele
and then Hettich.
I preferred Hafele + Blum over Hettich due to its higher
number of solution it can offer to customer and the quality of product. For the
wardrobes telescopic Channels I bought Hafele, and for my Kitchen I used Blum,
as it gives more longer life and can sustain more weight as kitchen being a
place where we open and shut the drawers a number of times in a day.
For the wardrobe I used the hafele channels and wheel kit
which I feel is much better than many other brands available in India. Initially
I felt I was paying a lot of amount compared to its near competitors (at some
point the difference is 5times) but if you need to fit and forget Hafele is
very good option.
It’s a onetime investment rather than expense. The wheel are
very smooth and doesn’t sound much, I also attached a soft close with it which
protects the door from banging and also added a switch with a scale light, so
whenever I opened the wardrobe the lights would switch on and off when I closed
them. I would upload the pictures pretty soon.
Blum on the other hand I used in my kitchen fitting and must
say though it being costly it is worth it. It adds the premium touch to your
kitchen and you can feel it in your daily use. I went with the steel finish set
they have, other two one being plastic and powder coated, but the SS gives a
very good finish and looks very neat. I also used Blum auto hinges for small
doors and they are very good in quality too.
One of the fitting I used of Hettich was the franke fittings,
which hafele doesn’t produce. This is used for Sofa cum Bed fitting by which we
can make a sofa convert to bed, I must say this was a very impressive product
developed by hettich and was only available with it and few other Chinese brands.
But the quality of Hettich was very high and premium.
One important thing with hardware fittings is that though it
may not add to the overall look of things, it may also go unnoticed amongst
your guest but it would be preferable if you go for good brands. This is a
prime base on which many of your products are running. You will have less
trouble if they are of good quality as they will give good life in long run. A
good brand of fitting if fitted right will avoid you to call the carpenter often.
Also hafele had a very good customer response system, as many of the fitting
are complicated and if not fitted right may not function as desired. They has a
good support team who assists and guides the carpenter free of cost in case
needed.
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Hi, congratulations on the successful completion of your home interior work. Can you share the details of the place from where you bought Blum fittings? What best percentage discount can be availed on these items.
ReplyDeleteI am also preferring hafale over hettich.
Thanks
TGC Das
Hello Mr Das,
ReplyDeleteThanks for writing back, I had purchased these fittings from multiple dealers in bangalore majorly from Metallica Hardware, the discount % has changed now, but i had got close to 30-35% including vat bill.
Hi Manish went through your replies I'm looking for a carpenter,can u help me with that,thank you.
DeleteThanks. Very good information.
ReplyDeleteThank You Sir.
DeleteI used Ebco products and they were very good and much better priced. Quality is very good. Have you tried Manish?
ReplyDelete- B.Charu
Yes Sir I did use Ebco products but at selected places, no doubt they are of good quality and competitive priced. But i experienced the difference between ebco and hafele in the wardrobe channels and wheel set. Ebco makes some irritating sound and are not as smooth as Hafele. Hafele has a wide range of products too, which gives innovative solution to basic problems.
Deleteany idea regarding Hafel tendem box? or if you also had done research on this ? pls share some information....which is better SS basket or Tendem box?
ReplyDeleteTandem box are very good, I am personally using them but of Blum, as they can sustain higher weight and more numbers of open and shut. I feel if you want a more modern look and can spend more you can go for the Tadem box (They are costly but looks stylish) and if you want a basic kitchen you can select SS basket.
DeleteManish once use hettich arcitech series of drawers u will forget everything.
DeleteBlum's chennal is as same as chinease chennals but hettich has a defined technology.
And if i talk about telescopic chennals then there is no product better than hettich telescopic chennals they are masters
Hafale is a trading co. They are just trading cheap chinese products else then blum. Whereas hettich is a manufacturer co.
Worlds biggest nd best kitchen maker ikea kitchens is using only hettich drawers. Not blum
Hi Manish
ReplyDeleteFrom whom did you get all this fitted. Did you hire a designer or carpenter. Can you please share the contact. based on what I read the person fitting it should have experience else may not fit it well.
Thanks
Shivali
Hello Shivali,
DeleteI had hired a local carpenter from Mumbai who was very experienced, though he fitted these fitting for the first time, not even a single fitting was damaged. Local assistance from the hafele store and a carpenter with good brain can do these fitting. The person I hired was Mr. Jagadish +91=9819143336). If one follows the instruction given with the fitting its a easy game.
I am looking to buy these second hand are you willing to sell?
ReplyDeleteSorry.
Deleteaccording to me try grass dwd runners for drawers.
ReplyDeleteHi Manish, good article and thanks for the details
ReplyDeleteI was also looking for the channels and fittings for my house furniture, is there some price comparison which you must have made with local and imported brands, which you can share
Thanks Manish, for sharing your reviews.
ReplyDeleteHi Manish,
ReplyDeleteThank you so much for sharing your views.
Im an architect and about to do my new house. I was little confused for the fitting, but your article channelized my thoughts.
1 Question, Did you opt for modular kitchen? or just Hafele hardware? Approx what did it cost you for the entire kitchen.
Thank you.
Hi,
DeleteI didn't opt for any specialized service provider for modular kitchen but in turn got all the fitting myself and got it fitted by the carpenter. The finishing and look is equivalent to top modular kitchen providers, but at a significant lower cost. Its very difficult to break down the cost, but it way lower than one we get it done from so called specialist
Excellent article. I'm in process of designing my home and an input over how to choose wood, laminate, material etc would be a great help.
ReplyDeleteHi I used complete Water proof plywood which was of a local brand but personally tested by the carpenter, the result was equal to that of any branded plywood. Laminates and other hardware was purchased by me from Mumbai, Grant road few shops of whose name I remember was of Lamart, Suveneer, Nero Hardware, Uttam glass. We can get awesome stuff at very good price.
DeleteCan you explain the cartage from mumbai to bangalore?
DeleteVery helpful article! Thanks. Iam getting the interiors done for my house and this information is very helpful. Hats off to your patience in researching and getting all the raw materials!
ReplyDeleteThank You.
DeleteNice blog.
ReplyDeleteI have 2 questions-
1. Would you recommend backpainted glass for shutters in kitchen. How much would it cost per sqft?
2. Using proper solid wood for entire kitchen will be worth?(pros and cons)
Hi,
DeleteBack painted glass do look good and are in trend today. I did not prefer it because kitchen being a high footfall region of the house the risk of it getting damaged increases. After all it is glass and we open and close shutters draws numerous number of times in a day any object hitting them would damage the glass and cost of replacement for such small piece also increases. This is the reason I did not go for them.
Your second question if I am not mistaken by solid wood you mean to say Teak wood. Yes one can go for it if you are a fan of it, but given the cost of Teak these days very few people go for it. It is very costly and also working on it takes lot of time hence carpenter charges high for the same.
A good strong ply with modern laminates (upon our budget) gives a better look at economical price and lesser time.
And we can change the laminate anytime in future with ease.
Thank You.
Hi!!!
ReplyDeleteVery informative article. I am doing the interiors of my flat too. It will be of great help if you can tell whether the Hettich’s Telescopic channels will fit in any local made kitchen steel baskets?? Looking forward to your reply... Thanks
Hello apologies for delay in reply. I think it should fit because local made steel baskets also runs on telescopic channels so you can use Hafele/Hettich Telescopic channel. Just make sure you use the correct weight capacity channels.
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ReplyDeleteVery informative Blog Manish!.Can you help me understand how you provided the layout of Wardrobe interior Structure ? I hope you have customized this to your preference without asking your carpenter to copy paste some existing design. If I hire an experienced carpenter or the same guy what you have hired, what all information should I need to provide him?
ReplyDeleteHi, Yes I did not go with the same rule of thumb for wardrobe interior, instead used different design for different based on requirements. By this we optimally use the space and end up wasting very minimal, as the requirements are unique and different for kids, ladies and gents. If you can share me your mail id I shall send you images of the same, you can have a look. If we hire any Carpenter or designer make sure they know well in advance what your requirements are. It will take time for them to work on different design and may charge a bit extra compared to standard designs, but it will be worth it.
Deleteif possible please mail me the designs too..
DeleteHi Manish, I am in pune and getting my house interior done. I have visited hafele & hettich show room and with MRP quotation my kitchen work is going on to almost 45k to 1.5 k . Is hafele is really that costly as compared to ss one.
ReplyDeletePlease guide which is good & reasonably priced brand in basket & fitting.
One query the carpenter was in Mumbai and he travelled to Bangalore for your work ??
Hi, yes the carpenter traveled from Mumbai to Bangalore. Yes mam Hafele fittings are very costly compared to other Indian brands, but we can feel the difference I can say. If you have budget then do not compromise on quality.
DeleteAlso please ask for good discounts, the retailers will give you a great deal. If you go for hafele or hettich then you do not require baskets. Otherwise for basket any local brand store will customize and give it to you, depends on the finishing a gauge of steel used, no specific brands in this field as per my knowledge goes on brand value of store keeper.
which series of blum did you use(plus, antaro or intivo). Also did you have any 4feet drawer? I want one but scared if it will be too difficult to pull out once its full. and for hinges for wall cabinets did you use blum or hafele or hettich? thanks..
ReplyDeleteHello,
DeleteI used Invito, as I found it to be more sustaining and stylish compared to other two also it is made up of SS so the life would be longer compared to other two. I had a 3 feet draw and loaded this with a 65kg capacity blum fitting and must say you I am pretty impressed with the functioning. You can do one thing you can call up the Blum helpline and take assistance from them, also you can show them you requirements they do come to the location and will guide you in selecting the best product. They also guide the carpenter in case they need help. For auto hinges I used blum and its been an year they are working fine.
which side element did you use with intivo, glass or wooden?
DeleteHi,
DeleteI have mailed you the designs.
didnt get the mail.. can you mail me on shivaligupta308@gmail.com and then delete this mail id
DeleteHave Mailed you the Designs.
DeleteHi..very informative. can you please mail me the designs too of wardrobes and kitchen ..will be of great help. Thanks. nikesh.nikzag@gmail.com
DeleteCan you also share from where you bought lights
ReplyDeleteHi, I bought my lights from a friends store located in Bangalore by the name Nine Lights. He also has a manufacturing unit located in China along with the display showroom in Bangalore. He was able to provide different and fancy fittings at an affordable price.
Deletethanks..
DeleteHi Manish pls mail design details for sliding wardrobe to godsthomachayan@gmail.com. Thanks a lot for the tips. Did you use Acrylic laminates for your wardrobe? May I know how you have fixed these if you have used the same?
ReplyDeleteHi, I have mailed you the designs. Yes at few places I have used PVC laminates for which we used Fevicol Pro Bond adhesive to stick it as its specially made for such laminates.
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DeleteVery Useful blog. We are also doing interiors of our flat in Bangalore.
DeleteWe were also confused between Hafele and Hettich fittings.
Please share your kitchen and wardrobe design to my email id - neeraj.goyal90@gmail.com.
If possible please do share the sofa cum bed design.
Hi Neeraj,
DeleteThanks
Have mailed you the designs.
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DeleteHi Manish. Thanks a lot. Kindly email a copy of wardrobe design which includes laminate blockboard n ply thickness used. Email id godsthomachayan@gmail.com. did u use acrylic laminates? If yes, may I know how you fixed them?
ReplyDeleteThe Thickness for plywood used for my wardrobe was 25 mm Board, alternatively you can join two plywood of lesser thickness and can go in the range of 25-30 mm. The designs of few wardrobes has be mailed to you. Thanks
DeleteHi Manish
ReplyDeleteCan you please share from where you bought handles etc and of which make?
Thanks
Hi, I bought the hardware which includes the handles from Nero Hardware Grant Road Mumbai. Though there are many unknown brands in handles category which has fancy design and of equivalent quality too compared to few branded. This store I mentioned had huge collection of handles designs (100+) so you can check the same and be open to options. Thanks
DeleteVery informative blog manish. I was confused with Hafele vs Hettich fittings. If possible could you please share your kitchen & wardrobe designs to my mailid junujohn79@gmail.com.
ReplyDeleteThanks a lot in advance
Hi Thanks John.
DeleteHave mailed you the picture.
Hi!!!Manish
ReplyDeleteThis is Manish here and very informative article from your side. I am doing the interiors of my flat too in Mumbai. It will be of great help if you can share the designs of wardrobe and kitchen with some pics for my reference. Looking forward to your reply... Thanks
Manish
Hi Thanks,
DeleteHave mailed you the picture.
Apologies for the delay.
Hi!!!Manish
ReplyDeleteThis is Manish here and very informative article from your side. I am doing the interiors of my flat too in Mumbai. It will be of great help if you can share the designs of wardrobe and kitchen with some pics for my reference. Looking forward to your reply on email: manishk_99@yahoo.com
Thanks
Manish
Hi Manish,Thank you for your time and posting very useful information hard to find.Could you please share your design at ramarao0304@gmail.com. Thanks, Rama
ReplyDeleteHi Thanks,
DeleteHave mailed you the picture.
Apologies for the delay.
Hi manish,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the good information.
My carpenter suggested Hafele and my engineer suggested Hitiche...
Little confused which one i should select?Now i got some clarity after reading ur blog...
I would like see wardbobes and kitchen imagez...
plz send it to krishnakanth.btech@gmail.com
Hi Thanks,
DeleteHave mailed you the picture.
Apologies for the delay.
Hi Manish Sharma,
ReplyDeleteYour blog is really helpful. I liked the comparison between brands. Cristal clear explanation , helps to chose the right brand. If possible can you please share your design to my mail id sendhilinfo@gmail.com. Do you know any god carpenter in Bangalore.
Thanks in avadvan.
Hi Thanks,
DeleteHave mailed you the picture.
Apologies for the delay.
Carpenters in Bangalore are there but I am not satisfied with there work, that's the reason I opted for a different team. No point recommending them.
DeleteRegards
Manish
Hi!!!Manish
ReplyDeleteThis is Manish here and very informative article from your side. I am doing the interiors of my flat too in Mumbai. It will be of great help if you can share the designs of wardrobe and kitchen with some pics for my reference. Looking forward to your reply on email: manishk_99@yahoo.com
Thanks
Manish
Hello,
DeleteHave Mailed you the pictures.
Regards,
Manish
Hi Manish,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the detail explanation. If possible can you please share your design to my mail id rupeshkumar.sap@gmail.com
Waiting for your reply !
Hello,
DeleteHave Mailed you the pictures.
Regards,
Manish
Hi Manish,
ReplyDeleteWe are planning a modular kitchen and wardrobes for our new home. We were so confused about Hafele or hettich...checking out rates, wondering about the quality...we are not hung up on having the very best but yes definitely looking for a good quality and low maintenance option.
Your article was very detailed and gave us a very clear picture, and in fact helped us to finally go with hafele. I can relate to the tremendous effort made by you and the research done...I am seeing my husband losing sleep over the same too. We have also decided to go with a local carpenter but we know it would be more taxing instead of giving to a consultant per se. However this would also ensure quality as per our requirements and yes the cost would be lesser.
It would be a big help if in this process you could share your kitchen design and wardrobe inner-outer designs. If it is okay with you kindly share the same on jayaswalrashi@gmail.com
Thanks in anticipation
Hi thanks for the appreciation, I do remember a similar phase of going sleepless, but trust me once the work is done up-to the mark the feeling of satisfaction is altogether different. I have mailed the pictures. Let me know if any further help is required.
DeleteRegards
Manish
Hi Manish.
ReplyDeleteVery informative article. I am doing my flat interiors. It would be really a great help if you could share the detailed design along with final photos to my ID .smamtharao@gmail.com
Awaiting your reply
Thanks much.
Hello,
DeleteHave Mailed you the pictures.
Regards,
Manish
Hi Manish
ReplyDeleteVery nice information..
I have started my interior at Bangalore flat.. do you have any idea between PVC, Acrylic, which one would be good for kitchen.
It would be great you and helpful if you share your design to my email id
Kchandragupta@gmail.com
Thanks
Chandra
Hello,
DeleteThere is very little difference between a PVC and Acrylic laminate, some seller terms the same laminate as Acrylic and some term its as PVC. For kitchen I preferred a PVC laminate with gloss and scratch resistance as the are is of high and rough use. We also get a lot of options in color and variety in the same. Also they are water resistant hence by increasing the life of the furniture by some years.
Regards,
Manish
Hi,
DeleteI have mailed the designs,
Regards,
Manish
Hi Manish
ReplyDeleteVery informative article. I am going to make carpenter made kitchen with Blum fittings. Your article really helped me a lot. Please favour me by sending the images of your kitchen and wardrobe. Thanks in advance.
Manish Bharti.
Hello,
DeleteCould you please provide me your mail Id.
Regards
Manish
Sure,
DeleteIt is drmanishbharti@gmail.com
Thanks,
Manish Bharti
Great work Manish.. I appreciate your effort put into this... The carpenter you mentioned .. Will he be available to work on the new house I plan to construct at Carmalaram bangalore..
ReplyDeleteHello,
DeleteThanks for your reply.
You would have to speak to him for that matter. I can provide you with his contact number.
Mr. Jagadish - +91- 9819143336.
Regards
Manish
Great piece of information here Manish, I was in contact with a specialist for modular kitchen, but after reading your article have understand that I can do it myself and save a lot.
ReplyDeletePlease favour me by sending the images of your kitchen and wardrobe
at preetimatey08@gmail.com
Hello Preeti,
DeleteThanks for your appreciation, yes you would save a lot trust me on this. I have mailed you the images.
Regards
Thanks
Hi Manish,
ReplyDeleteCan you please share your modular kitchen and Wardrobe pictures
at mohitprop82@gmail.com. It would be helpful. Also how is Alvic material to get the kitchen wardrobes done.
Thanks, Mohit
Hi Mohit,
DeleteI have shared the images. Regarding Alvic, they do look gorgeous but I do not have specific idea about its cost and durability.
Regards
Manish
Hello Manish,
ReplyDeleteThanks for sharing the detailed information in everyone's interest.
Can you please provide me with some of your design and photos of your kitchen and inner-outer wardrobe to my email id
yournitin@gmail.com
Thanks in Advance.
Nitin
Hello Nitin,
DeleteI have mailed you the images.
Regards,
Manish
Hello Manish,
ReplyDeleteThanks for the article, very informative.
I have a few questions
1) How did u design your kitchen? All the nitty gritty..
2) Do the hafelle guys help us with design ideas?
3) How long does it take to get the kitchen ready by a carpenter?(I have to complete the kitchen in 2 months) is it doable??
Thanks in advance,
Hi Meet,
DeleteThanks for you appreciation,
1) Well it did take a lot of time and research visiting various stores in Bangalore dedicated to kitchen, gaining experience from seeing new things was one of them, also good guidance ans assistance from my designer helped me in doing so.
2) No Hafele guys only help in solving difficulty faced in understand and fitting their fittings.
3) Yes 20 odd days is enough for wood and finishing work. if civil and Marble/granite work is pending the add another 20 days to it.
Regards,
Manish Sharma
Hi Manish, The article is very insightful. Can you please share your design to my mail id sanjeev.anirudh@gmail.com. I am planning to do my house interiors soon. It would be of great help to me.
ReplyDeleteHello Anirudh,
DeleteThanks, I have mailed you the images.
Regards
Manish
Hi Manish,
ReplyDeletePlz can u mail Ur kitchen and wadrobe designs to chethanahanji@gmail.com
Hello,
DeleteHave mailed you the images.
Regards
Manish
Hello sir . I am.confused on the hafell fittings and need to decide soon. Can u please send ur kitchen design to vigneshcm@hotmail.com
ReplyDeleteHi,
DeleteI have mailed the images,
Regards
Manish
Hi, Can you plz send yr designs to rxpaul@hotmail.com. Also have you placed the granite/quartz platform on verticals of kadappa/granite & brickwork OR have you placed it direct on the wooden carcase.Thanks
ReplyDeleteHello,
DeleteI have placed the granite top of Sadarhalli shine one of 20 mm into two piece equaling to 40 mm for additional support. Directly placing it on wooden carcase wont give that amount of support which Kadappa/granite would. Have mailed you the design.
Thanks and Regards
Manish Sharma
Hi ,can you pls share your all your designs pic to kavitharamarao@gmail.com ,(kitchen and wardrobe)
ReplyDeleteAlso,for a 8’5”long sliding wardrobe length is it advisable to fix 3 sliding or 2 sliding doors and is top wheel soft close Hettich is good???
Hi I have mailed the design.
DeleteFor a 8.5 feet long wardrobe you have to go for three doors and maximum plywood breath is 4 feet so this leaves us with just 8 feet, if you can reduce the size to 8 feet then two door sliding door would look much neater and bigger and easy maintenance.
Thanks and Regards
Manish Sharma
Yes true..thanks a ton for your suggestion..really grateful.
DeleteAlso,pls mention if you had made a loft along with your sliding door wardrobe...your explanation is so precise and can put anyone out of confusion.Appreciate the research .thanks for the details
ReplyDeleteHello,
DeleteThanks for your appreciation.
Yes I do have a loft above the Sliding doors of equal size of 4feet each X 2 nos. I have mailed you the pictures It will give you a clearer picture.
Thanks and Regards
Manish Sharma
Thanks...my wardrobe will be exactly the same now !!!we too will utilise the little extra space we have by adding a swing door on the other side
DeleteAre you on a vacation?!! :-))
ReplyDeleteApologies for a delayed reply.
DeleteNo worries at all... the wait was worth it...we liked the space saving sofa cum bed also.very thoughtful
DeleteWe have got the carcasses ready for Kitchen with the help of our carpenter,thought would buy shutters (doors,drawers) cum accessories of Blum readymade from Häfele authorised dealer at Banaswadi,however,they are insisting to get the carcasses re done ,cos acc to them we won’t get the finishing properly from our carpenter! How true is this?!
Hi Manish - Thank you! I have been trying to talk to different folks to understand the effort involved. I am learning and your blog is very definitive. Thank you for taking time to put this together. I would like to see if you could share your kitchen/wardrobe pics to have an understanding. I have been talking for few weeks with all big names and I am not satisfied with what they share as the design and the pics. Reading your blog is motivating me to execute by ourselves. I am sure, this is an umpteenth time to receive a request to share the pics. May be, I am thinking, you could post it here on the blog so that we do not bother you much. We reach out to you for very specific questions then. :) If you could help me out. Please email to prasanna_k@hotmail.com.
ReplyDeleteHi Thanks Prasanna for your kind words,
DeleteI have mailed you the pictures.
Regards
Manish Sharma
Have uploaded the pictures sir. Thanks for your suggestion.
DeleteRegards
Manish Sharma
Hi Manish,
ReplyDeleteCan the Blum fittings be installed on carpenter made drawers? I was under the impression that the Blum fittings can only be installed on Tandem boxes/blum drawers. Also where do I get the blum fittings for carpenter made drawers? in Blum dealers? Please clarify. Also since it is carpenter made, do we need to use telescopic channel for drawer slides?
Sorry for too many questions as Iam a newbee
Thanks
Senthil
Hello Senthil,
ReplyDeleteThe Blum fitting can be installed on carpenter made draws the tandem boxes needs a base which has to be prepared by the carpenter. Blum wil provide you with channels and the side accessories in various forms as per your selection (SS finish, Powder quoted finish etc..) you need to make the base of plywood and ask your carpenter to fit it.
Its advisable to just visit a near by hafele store with your carpenter he would get a clear idea of how to do.
Do question the supplier in case you do not understand any fittings they will assist you or send technician at your site.
If you are buying Blum fitting then the set contains the channels, you do not have to buy separate telescopic channel for it.
If you are using the steel trolley model then blum fitting wont fit in that you just can manage with Hafele telescopic channels along with the steel trolley.
Hope I have answered all your query.
Thanks and Regards,
Manish Sharma
Hi Manish, Very useful information. Great work. Please share me the pictures at dubbu_hi@yahoo.com.
ReplyDeleteThanks,
~Shankar
Hello,
DeleteThanks for the appreciation, the pictures are updated above.
Regards
Manish Sharma
Hii Manish..Very informative article..I m going to make my very beautiful nd functional kitchen,so I would like to see your kitchen nd wardrobes pix.Could u plzzz share these pix 2 my mail ID... Vermasoma08@gmail.com. Thnk u.
ReplyDeletehe has posted it in the above article. atleast go through that before asking for pics.
DeleteHi sir very informative article. Our carpenter advised godrej is better than hetic and haffle. Soo much confusion. Please suggest me which one is better. Can we use same brand for all fittings. Which brand ss baskets is best. Please suggest. Please mail ur kitchen and ward robe pics. sreedevi.neni9@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteHi, to be frank, Godrej fitting I am not aware of. I did not come across any of their major fitting in my journey towards building my house interior.
DeleteYes you can go for one brand of fitting for whole house this will make your wastage less and carpenter works easier. I used Blum SS basket which I must specify is terrific till date.
The pictures are in this blog only.
Regards
Manish Sharma
And today he brought enox hinges. Is is good brand . Please suggest .
ReplyDeleteEnox is a good brand :) They are famous in glass architectural hardware fittings. I used them In glass partition in washroom.
DeleteNice and thanks for sharing this informative content for us.
ReplyDeleteStainless Steel Kitchen Cabinets in Bangalore
Thank You
DeleteRegards
Manish Sharma
Hi Manish,
ReplyDeleteThank you for taking the time to put down all the information and answering all the queries
I have mostly done my research around hettich and grass. Blum looks very promising after reading your article. I will look more into it.
I have a few questions
1. I have a 3 ft x 1 ft drawers would you suggest a tandem or high end channels (called quadro in hettich, not sure if what its equivalent or better one is in Blum)
2. I have drawers of similar size on the floor (in the place of skirting). Is the wheel kit you mention in the article for such drawers?
3. I have been trying to find comprehensive data of different channels/tandem vs max weight vs max width for optimal performance of the drawers. Have you come across any such resource on the net?
4. I have finalised my design still would love to see your designs. Im sure there would be many things i can use from it. Could you please mail them to madhura.bindu@gmail.com
Thanks again for your efforts
Regards
Madhura
Hello Madhura,
DeleteThanks for you appreciation.
To begin with I ll answer your query question wise:
1) It depends where the drawer is, if it is in the kitchen or wardobe. If in kitchen then you can go for blum, but if in Wardrobe you can use hafele or Quadro of hettich, just make sure you pick the right kgs channel so that it can take the weight. To tell you a interesting fact I used a Ebco Indian channel for a drawer which is 1feet in height and 12 feet in width to place my aluminum ladder in it and its working fine.
2)No no the wheel kit is for the wardrobe channel. For floor drawer we can use small size 6-8 wheel kit which functions smooth and doesn't not leave a impact on the flooring. There is no famous brand in this but we have to hunt for the same in local market of whole sale hardware.
3) The hafele store gave me their calculation when I mentioned my details to them. They have it in their system.
4) The images are in the blog itself.
Thanks and regards
Manish Sharma
Mam once call on 18002092096 a kitchen expert from hettich will come to your door step and will answer your a each and every question technically. Hettich is the only brand in world master in the drawer segment and hinge segments. And hettich can provide you the unbeatable service.
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Hi Manish..I have decided on Blum hardware for my kitchen. I wanted know what is better between powder coated and SS. Also, do you have any idea about Raumplus brand acrylic laminate? My interiors consultant suggested it saying it is German imported and good. It would be great if you can suggest any good brands for acrylic laminate in the kitchen. Between Blum Aventos lift up and other single lift up I am not able to decide..any suggestions here also appreciated. Many thanks in advance!
ReplyDeleteHi, I had installed the Blum SS finish as It will give an increased life span over the other two. If you have budget constraints you can go with the powder coated which is also fine. But if budget is not an issue the SS finish looks neat and gives a premium feel. About the brand in Acrylic laminate I do not have any idea about Raumplus, but I had used Berga which has a korean feel and could be rebuffed. There are a lot of brands in this you can have a check at retail stores before buying. Also please check the cost it varies hugely from location to location. For example I was quoted Rs 3500/sheet in Bangalore and same sheet of same brand I got from Mumbai at Rs 1500/-.
DeleteAventos lift up is good do check the weight to size ratio. I had initially bought a higher capacity one which made the door shoot up quickly.
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Manish Sharma
Hi Manish,
ReplyDeleteFirstly, I must say, you are a man of patience and nerve of steel.
You have responded to each and every query to the satisfaction of all. Really liked your blog!
In the same anticipation, I am writing my journey so far and my queries where you can advise basis your experience so far...
1. I am constructing residential house with 3 floors having 2 kitchen. Both have approx sizes of 180-200 sq ft.
2. I have been researching Delhi/NCR area for modular kitchen manufacturers.
3. Most have almost same options, laminate/membrane/acrylic/PU or glass finish for shutters. Plywood for carcass. Fittings of Hettich or Inox.
4. Recently, found 2 more options for shutter, one as Niemann board from Germany (high gloss front side, lam on other side, its totally scratch resistant, tested myself but quite expensive) and second is Alvic board from Spain (high gloss from front side and same color matt on back side, its also scratch resistant but the glossyness is not that good in comparison to acrylic board of mdf or Niemann).
Now, my queries are as below:
1. which material should I use for carcass given the fear of termite in Delhi region. as of now, I have shortlisted action tesa HDHMR 16 mm board. back side of carcass will have tiles as protection. I have other option of going with Century BWP grade board for carcass. please suggest.
2. One of my known dealer of Hafele/Blum/Hettich suggested me to try and look at the TITUS hardware fittings for kitchen. TITUS is from Slvoania and I physically tested their tandem fitting today and found it appealing. Their TITUS HYDRAULIC DAMPER is patented technology which they claim to be best in industry. So, the question is, is TITUS better than BLUM/Hafele...by the way, this is cheaper than Hettich by 30-40% on net value after discount.
3. which material should I use for Shutter -> Niemann (it's approx 600/- psft OR Alvic (it's approx 400/- psft) OR Ornare Acrylic high gloss lam boards (it's approx 300/- psft)
4. If hardware to be used is BLUM, then which hardware should be of BLUM? like bi-fold, tandem drawer etc.?
5. which hardware should I use of Hafele, if recommendation is Hafele...?
my list of hardware is as follows:
Magic Corner 1 4 SQUARE MAGIC CORNER BLUM
Rolling Shutter 1 ALUMINIUM REHAU
Drawers 12 QUADRO WITH WHITE RODS BLUM
Bottle Pull Out 1 STEEL BLUM
Cutlery Tray 1 PVC IMPORTED
Grain Trolley 1 QUADRO WITH WHITE RODS BLUM
Tall Unit Drawers 4 QUADRO WITH GLASS FRONT BLUM
Wicker Bastet 1 IMPORTED
GTPT 1 SS 304 IMPORTED
Bi-Folds Lift Up 2 BLUM
Hope you are not irritated by the length of my question and comment but looking at your past record, I am hopeful, you would help me arrive at right decisions.
Regards
Sanmati Jain
Thanks for the appreciation. The list is long :), but would love to answer them all. That was the reason why I wrote this blog to help as much as I can. So here it is:
Delete1) Cover up the base with tiles and also the back side of the board with a cheap laminate this though would not be seen but would reduce the chances of termites to the minimum. The more you wrap the back and sides of plywood with laminate the chances of termites reduce. I think you can go with Century BWP 710+ Marine Grade Plywood. It is solid and effective but may increase the budget. Given the query and brands you mentioned I assume that budget is not a constrain for you. So we ll keep that aside for my next answers.
2) Titus I have a very fair bit of Idea regarding this brand. Also i feel they do not have as much number of solution as Hafele or Hettich has. Secondly the support team plays an important role if they have a good support team it would be easy for you and the carpenters life. I would prefer to go for single brand like Titus or Hafele or Blum. This reduces the wastage and also easier for carpenter to understand the fitting and install. I am now using blum in kitchen since a year and half and must say its working the same as it did the first day.
3) If budget is no issue then Niemann looks beautiful.
But I personally feel its very costly. You can use a good quality Veneer (say 400/sqft) and get a Poly coat on it (Say 300/sqft) this would give you the best finish. Or you can simply use polycoat with single color on plain plywood that would just cost you 400-450/ sqft. The rate of polycoat start with 300/sqft but with lower quality the one I coated you is using ICA Chemical Italy. I ll upload a picture of same in the blog you can see the finish over veneer you can have a check.
4) Hardware of blum you can use the Tandem box then Aventos bi fold lift up.
5) Hafele has only drawer channel rest you will have to use Blum if selecting between these two brands.
The list of hardware looks great I am also using the Rehau its beautiful and smooth. instead of glass you can have a look at the SS finish it will increase the life.
Personally I found the Blum Kitchen drawer Cutlery Tray to be very expensive, So I asked my carpenter to use the Merino hanex board and cut them into the sizes I wanted and made partition. Its serving the purpose I must say.
Hope I have met with all your query. The views shared by me can be used for decision making but at the end go with what you feel is perfect.
Regards
Manish Sharma
Hi Manish,
ReplyDeleteHats off to you , i am impressed by your blog. I am also from Bangalore and planning to do the interiors by my self since i am not satisfied by the interior firms. To begin with i am totally new, if you could please guide me which all stores you have purchased which products in Bangalore, and since they have guided you as well, would really want to know . would also want to know for kitchen you have used Blum, what are all the additional work needed to be done by the carpenter like i read in the above comments you need to fix the blum product on the woodwork, i am not able to get these details properly on the internet.
Lastly , could you please email me your designs to vazdolly12@gmail.com
Thanks a lot.
Hello Thanks for the appreciation.
DeleteThe images have been uploaded along with this blog please have a check. For blum fitting we just need to make a basic
drawer box without the sides. Once you take your carpenter to any of the distributors or the main display store located near to Langford Road, Shanthi Nagar Bangalore. Its very simple dont worry regarding that.
For plywood : Master Hardware (+91-98863 88516)
For hafele and Blum Fitting: Metallica (080-26620119)
For Lights: Nine Lights (+91-99454 44448)
For Laminates: Mumbai: Lam Art
For Fancy Hardware : Mumbai : Nero Hardware Grant road.
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Manish Sharma
Many tks Manish.
ReplyDeleteI have arrived at few decisions basis my R&D till today and your response stamps the same.
Decisions:
1. Hardware mix of blum and hafele
2. Shutter of niemann. Have negotiated hard.
Just a query: What will be psft best negotiated rate for century bwp 710+ plyboard . What’s your opinion abt Duro plyboard of bwp grade?
Rgds
Hello,
DeleteIts been long since I have lost touch with the rates part. So wouldn't be able to throw light on that. But go for Century.
Thanks and Regards
Manish Sharma.
@Sanmati
DeleteCan you share the negotiated price of Niemann shutters and also the colour choices you have got?
Thanks in advance.
Hello, Manish
ReplyDeleteVery informative and soothing blog which puts ones mind at ease.Appreciate the time and effort you put in to replying to all queries. Well, i have one too.After see sawing with interior designers, furniture contractors, modular manufacturers I finally have decided to get it done by my carpenter.My doubt is as to how was the finish of the entire thing? The edge banding and all? Can one buy shutters and fix them? How to procure shutters?
Iam Arunkumar and based in Ahmedabad.arunphoenix372@gmail.com.Thankyou
DeleteHello,
DeleteThanks.
When you take a bending PVC laminate just bend it on both side so you wont get the edge. As on the top you will have the handle and bottom would not mind you. So just bend it on both the sides. This will increase the grip also as chances of the band coming out are high if adhesive is not used properly. So continue with the laminate.
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Manish Sharma
Your post is very informative and contains new things to read.Wardrobes in Hyderabad | Wardrobe Designs in Hyderabad
ReplyDeleteHello Manish
ReplyDeleteCan you suggest me good store in GRANT ROAD for chsing hafele,hettich products
Also are ENOX products good for use ?
NERO Hardware.
DeleteYes enox is a good company.
Hi manish
ReplyDeleteThank you for the Artical.
I am getting my modular kitchen done. My carpenter is suggesting peglar brand for hardware and for corner unit. Do you know anything about peglar brand? Am planning for tandum box, so which company box and corner unit will you suggest? Which brand is good for cutler unit and detergent holder?
Hi Poornima
DeleteApologies for late reply.
I am sorry but I have not heard about the brand Peglar. Request you to have a look at their fittings to have a feel at any of their demo work and the price of the same.
If there is not much difference you can go for Hafele any day.
For tandem box the quality of Hafele is much more superior than its other competitors. As I have personally used it so I can say no issues so far. Though I faced some issue with Hafele Channels soft close ones but those were small issues and could be a problem due to uneven carpentry work which was rectified soon without much effort.
For detergent holder you can try Hettich.
Regards
Manish Sharma
Hi Manish
ReplyDeleteThis a very useful blog. We are going to be doing the interiors of our flat in Bangalore and found all the details that you have provided gave us a very good insight into many aspects of this
Please share your kitchen and wardrobe design to my email id - kuruvillaj@gmail.com.
Thanks
John
Hi John,
DeleteThanks for your reply. The pictures are right up there below the blog you can have a look.
Thanks and Regards
Manish Sharma
Hi Manish,
ReplyDeleteVery user full article.
Please share your kitchen and wardrobe design to my email id - alkesh.gupta@gmail.com
My kitchen and wardrobe work is going to start soon. So it will be good if you can send me asap.
Thanks.
Hi,
DeleteThank you. The images are uploaded above.
Awsome information Sir.Can you please send the designs to butta.vinay@gmail.com
ReplyDeleteThanks
Hello Manish,
ReplyDeleteI liked your designs and your blog is really informative.
I am planning interiors for my new flat. Could you please share your designs to sairam_mtek@yahoo.co.in
Hi Thank you.
DeleteThe designs are uploaded above.
Hello Manish,
ReplyDeleteI liked your designs & concepts and your blog is really informative and guiding tool
I am planning interiors for my new house. Could you please share your designs to sandiribabolat@gmail.com
Hi Thank you.
DeleteThe designs are uploaded above.
Thank You
ReplyDeleteHi Manish,
ReplyDeleteCan you share your design diagrams. I am planning to get Blum Tandem boxes for Kitchen and also Wardrobe fittings for them.
Hi, Thanks. Please find the images above.
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Manish
Hi Manish,
ReplyDeleteCan you share your design diagrams. I am planning to get Blum Tandem boxes for Kitchen and also Wardrobe fittings for them.
My email uassaleem@gmail.com
Hi Manish,
ReplyDeleteCould you share some of the designs & concepts. I am planning to get Hafele Tandem boxes for Kitchen. Thanks for your blog.
My mail ID: udaykumarreddy521@gmail.com
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Hi, Thanks. Please find the images above.
DeleteRegards
Manish
ReplyDeleteHi Manish ,
Very useful informations .
I am confused between Hettich and Hafele for the soft closure wardrobe sliding .
Hettich offered life time warranty and Hafele offered 5 years warranty.
Please suggest and share your wardrobe images . surpeters@gmail.com
S Peter
Hi, Thanks. You can have a feel of both the product multiple times with different pressure and then can decide on which to buy.
DeleteThe images have been uploaded above.
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Manish
Hi Manish,
ReplyDeleteVery informative blog. Could you please mail me the designs of your kitchen, wardrobe and living room. My email ID is anisahmed1@gmail.com. Thanks!
Hi, Thanks. Please find the images above.
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Manish
I just discovered this blog. I will be reading current and past blogs.This post is Great. Thanks you for this. Can I share for my website
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Hi, Thanks for your appreciation. Yes sure please do that.
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It contains the data I was looking for and you have in like way enlightened it well and your interesting offer. I'm happy to discover your post. Continue sharing this kind of stuff.
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DeleteThank you for your appreciation.
Hats off to you for helping everyone in detail regarding this. I am yet another person, who, looking at the inexorbitant rates charged by modular kitchen specialists, decided to do my modular kitchen myself. Can you please share the designs of your kitchen to ganeshvramani93@gmail.com ? As of now, I have visited only Hettich so far and very impressed with their carcitech + cargo plus drawer systems. Yet to visit Hafaele/Blum
ReplyDeleteWhich hob would u suggest? Is Kaff good?
Any specific brand of laminate you would suggest to use?
Thanks in advance
DeleteHi, The images have been update above.
With regards to HOB I have burnt my hands once when I went will Elica.
Must say the hob was a disaster. The flames at times reached 2-3 feet in height when going high from low or switching off, despite regular complaints by me it was not solved. I had to change it. Currently I am using Faber and its working good so far. The new designer series by them gives good look and specifically made for Indian cooking style.
Laminates you can go with any good quality above 1mm.
Buy the ones you like.
Thanks
Also, which countertop have you used? And which is the best cost wise, I don’t want granite as it looks ordinary. But Quartz seems too expensive
ReplyDeleteHi, I have gone for a Imported Granite. Just because of its shell life, easy cleaning and always look good feature.
DeleteHi can you tell me where in Bangalore can I get Imported Italian Granite. You can reply me at bhudebmukherjee57@gmail.com
DeleteYou can try with IMG Marble, Krismar too have a good collection
DeleteHi, I am from chennai.you are using hafele products nearly 4.5 years.did you face any problem
ReplyDeleteHello Balaji, I am not facing any problem in these fittings as of now. Now that i heard that blum and Hafele have separated their ways. You can use blum for your kitchen and hafele for other wardrobes. As hafele fitting I didn't find that great for kitchen even in there experience store.
DeleteHi Manish
ReplyDeleteI just came across your Blog.It is very useful and informative. I am in the process of planning the interiors for our Apartment in Bangalore. I had a question regarding wardrobes. I am planning for sliding wardrobes. However I am bit confused on the selection of sliding door hardware. I know that ARISTO is very good. I have checked them out personally and the products are really excellent. However they are very expensive. Wanted to know if you have any experience or opinion about Wardrobe sliding door hardware/mechanism of Hettich or Hafele. I have come across few negative comments by users about Hettich/Hafele Wardrobe sliding door hardware. The feedback seems that beyond 1-2 years of use the mechanisms start to give problem and therefore they had to switch to ARISTO.
Would appreciate if you can share the dawings of your Kitchen and Wardrobe. You can mail me at bhudebmukherjee57@gmail.com.
Hi i had used hafele channel and till now I am not facing any issue. You can even try Ebco fittings. I heard they have come up with some good range of products and their guage is also heavier and they are economical too when compared to international brands.
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ReplyDeleteYou seem to have done an extensive research and its quite interesting. I am recently bought a flat and planning to get the interiors done.
You article has soleved most of my queries. Could you please share the designs of kitchen and wardrobe's
It would be nice if you could mail them to seemathippeswamy98@gmail.com
Hello Seema the images for the same has been attached above. You can use them for reference. If anything more is needed you can mail me at manishkumarsharmas@gmail.com
DeleteHi Manish, very impressive blog. I am building a house and am confused between Blum legrabox and Hettich avantech. Which is better. Also who has a better sliding door system Hettich or Haffele.
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